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Josh Baldwin's avatar

I'm kind of there now. I almost feel weird saying "vegan" to people. Usually others bring it up. I find it better to speak about animal cruelty with people.

Holly Elmore's avatar

This is a mistake and it comes from fatigue with holding the frame that eating animals is bad when it’s not in the Overton window. But removing moral pressure from the radical flank is retreating, and soon you’ll want to give more ground so you don’t feel like you’re in a confrontation, because that sense of negotiating the Overton window is going pursue you wherever you run. This is the work. Vegans hold and advance a line that all other forms of animal welfare advocacy/innovation depend on.

Disavowing the expectation that consuming the flesh of animals is bad IS retreating on the claim that animals matter. By telling vegans and animal people to tone it down and make their message more palatable to people who dislike it because they are morally in the wrong you are telling the animal people not to believe animals matter so much. Not to expect that others should care even if society doesn’t currently force them to.

I was vegan for 15 years and now eat dairy— vegan is morally better. I have no problem owning that. I think people who are vegan are doing a service for animals, for all kinds of animal activism, and for me personally because I value the overall moral arc of animal welfare they are contributing to. Vegans should be lauded, not scapegoated for being “too much” when you want to collaborate with people who are part of the problem. If those people want to help, they are not entitled to a judgment free zone. That should be welcomed to help but inculcated into higher moral expectations.

tl;dr: to disavow veganism is to take your own claims less seriously and to appease less-aligned people at the expense of nurturing committed people who in fact move the Overton window

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